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Foreigners speak about xenophobic attacks

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Livhuwani Mammburu spoke to foreign refugees at The Central Methodist Church about the violent xenophobic attacks that have spread across Gauteng

-Xenophobic attacks in Alexandra

-Xenophobic violence spreads to Diepsloot

-Winnie visits Alexandra

-Flames of hate

-Homes burn as xenophobic violence continues

21 May 2008
 

annoyed

to deport now
its really sad for you to assume that south africans do not have jobs because of foreigners.to be honest with you im a zimbabwean living in SA and all i ever see where i live are south africans coming to beg us for food, knocking on our doors for anything that we dont want/need.the sad thing is that these are able bodied people who would rather smoke mbanje and drink all day because they believe there is no work.that is the mind of an ignorant, stupid and lazy person if you know you dont have something to put in your belly go and sweep the streets,yes it may be demeaning but its better than nothing.another thing, when you see foreigners having jobs or leading a better life than you its because hey know how it feels like to suffer.do you think we enjoy being here?being afraid to walk at night because some random person will either rape or kill you?no!its due to circumstances and let me tell you something, life is a wheel!it wont stop turning what you are doing to our countrymen,the zimbabweans and others in general, will come back and haunt you.its mentalities like these that will stop your progression.just wait for the world cup to end and you will see whats happening.and anyway, these illegal immigrants are doing nothing wrong they are contributing to the growth and development of your nation and paying their taxes, the ones you see killing and murdering are doing so because they see you south africans doing it and getting away with it.why do you think that south africa ia among the world’s top 5 countries with very high crime rates and not places like nigeria or zimbabwe, its because we took time to go to school and get an education to make our lives better.dont blame foreigners for your laziness man!!

22 May 2008
 

Maneo Sefate

that is why THEY BEAT YOU UP

lizzie My sister do you know how many south african are reading what you have put there its the talk of the office today what are you trying to do. let me tell you are like a snake you take it from the cold you put it in the warm place the next thing its bite you . not all South African are like that but then you Makwerekwere you have faild your country your mother and the old layds that you have left in your country to be killd By your STUPID MUGABE he is buys there burning peaple if you are so clever as you think why dont you go back and fix thing inyour country we never ran away but we do you now about power JUNE 16 1976 young kids were figthing ther they did nt go to your zim to dirty it joburg flats are very dity you cant even bath you self . those ladys ho go uot with amakwerekwere yhey are after money thas all i dont see my self dating li kwerekwere BANUKA KABI ABAGEZI AMAKHWAPHA. WITH THAT ATITUDE MY SISTER GOOOOO BACK TO YOUR COUNTRY .

Lets Stop Killing THEM BUTthey MUST gooooooooooooo

22 May 2008
 

HIDE AND SICK

MANEO my man, my only question is this, if this is about foreigners, then why dont u do this to the white people?, do u wanna tell me that there are no illegal white immigrants in the counrty? , do u wanna tell me that there are no white people that dont shower?, or that commit crime?, this is frustration, if nothing else, im sure there is a bunch of idiots behind this, if only the scorpions still existed, im sure they would nail them, god help us all.

23 May 2008
 

THEMBI

Londi you are sick my darling is this killing done by Zulus, you mean that the whole of Gauteng is occupied by Zulus. Think twice my darling before you forward your comment, this is insanity. Stop spreading lies. You mean that you that you don’t know that these people are performing crime here in South Africa i.e. selling drugs, raping, killing, hijacking, are doing untolerated things. I also don’t want them to be killed, we love them, they are our brothers and sisters but they must not behave like this, this is unacceptable. But now, they must go back to their countries to sort their countries problems, is not us that we have to sort out their problem.

I

23 May 2008
 

Khomotjo Manthata

Anxious moments take our minds away and they scar us for life!

We are like actors in a play: David vs Goliath. Our blood come from the one above who is our Heavenly Father. Best frienships are broken due to this intimidation.

Xenophobia takes over our minds and corrupts the minds of our children…Really what is that big lesson that we are sending to our kids.But we still continue to say..Let HIS will be done!

SALUTE…

23 May 2008
 

general

I just cant understand t reason why we should have foreigners from all over Africa, y don’t we have Zimbabweans only because they r running from the “VOTE & VOTE UNTIL I WIN” regime in their country. How can a person travel (illegally) all the way from Ghana Nigeria just to open a salon in our country, r u saying people from ur country don’t cut their hair. These people must just leave us with peace before we all get arrested for killing them. (and their families)

23 May 2008
 

DELIWE

If you are not affected by this people i don’t rxpect you to understand. my friend is still merried to a foreigner today.

23 May 2008
 

MUENDA MBULUNGENI

I AM PROUJD EDUCATED, MIDDLE CLASS VENDA BOY OF 25. I AM FORCED TO BE EXILED IN MY OWN LAND, AFRICA.THESE ATTACKS ARE GOING TO BE WORSE, BECAUSE NOW ZULUS ARE ATTACKING VENDAS FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO SPEAK ZULU. ZULUS MUST JUST GET OVER THEMSELVES AND GO TO SCHOOL.WE ARE WHO WE MAKE OURSELVES TO BE.

JUST TAKE A SCENARIO, WHERE PEOPLE FROM VENDA, WITH THE SAME AFRICAN BROTHERS START TO RATALIATE.YOU MUST AT LEAST KNOW THAT NO ONE IS A NATIVE OF THIS LAND./

23 May 2008
 

tshepo

im here in germany as a south african i wonder if people could do the samething to me what would happen,so thats wrong and it is well planned and its time for us as christians to repend and ask God for forgiveness because we know the truth so who are we telling the truth to.God´s peace

24 May 2008
 

Jesus is the Answer

I guess one’s actions are regulated by what they believe and think is right. I can only attribute these barbaric and unholy acts to shallow minds and lazy hands of uneducated persons and frustrated lads who are yet to have an encounter with their maker( God) and are seeking contention in violence. I’m failing to say that such folks are sober, because clearly, they’re not.No one in this whole universe has or will ever find any solution or answer in violence.

Anyway, the bible recorded that during the last days, nations will rise against each other and a fathers against theirown kids. These showcase clearly what the prophet John was talking about in the book of revelations. John 10:10 says ” the devil comes to steal and to destroy”, but Jesus says “but I have come that you may have life, and not an ordinary life, but life in abundance”. The devil will never do any good to any man, whether against or with him. His mandate is to kill and to destroy, but I’m glad the bible says that he has been defeated. He’s a helpless freak who is trying so hard to win a battle that he has lost centuries ago.
Fellow citizens of the kingdom, it’s about time we realise that every major shaking on this planet is an implication and an indication of something which is yet to come. These kind of acts are an indication that we need to pray more and intercede for each other. Remember, the bible says that there is neither Jew nor Gentile, we’re all sons according to the inheritance we have in Christ. This clearly says to us that we need not recognise origin when we locate our own brothers and sisters, but let’s be of one lineage and realise the fact that the only weapon that can prevail against the enemy is the mind and the spirit of the opressed. We need to invest in our thinking processes and our spirirts if we are to see ourselves prevail against the odds of this world (and the devil himself).
The effectual fervent (continued;earnest) prayer of a righteous man makes tremendous power (Dunamis{Greek} -dynamic ability to cause changes) available(James 5:16).

Fighting one another will not win us any battle because none of us is the source or the cause of the battle. The devil is the cause and source, but he uses men and women who are submersive to his will to accomplish his acts. But I tell you, only if we could shift the stance against each other and use all our efforts in fighting the enemy in prayer, the battle will definately be won. Psalms 121 says “I will lift up mine us to the hills from whence com eth my help, my help cometh from the Lord, the Lord which made heaven and earth…”.
If we’re to receive help or any solution( or answer) that’s going to have a lasting impact against this peril, we ought to look up to our maker (God) and seek for divine intervention, then only can we sit back confidently and say we’re triumphant.

May the graec of our Lord Jesus Christ, the love of God and the communion of the holy spirit, rest and abide with each one of us, in Jesus’ name-AMEN.
God bless Africa!

24 May 2008
 

joe

All revolves around the election votes.The more illigals are with false RSA documents more votes available for marketing. The larger the squater camp more desperate people willing to vote in exchange of a “decent” house. The more Zimbabweans in RSA less votes for Changarai.And the list goes on and on .

26 May 2008
 

NONO

Tshepo

where are u in Germany coz me too im clozer to germany so that we will chat abt other things since all south africans are crazi abt chasing people, the reason is that they dont have experience about other places lives their minds only know their most richest country, if we had to be chased here what would happen to us coz we are here to put food infront of our kids and family, not to enjoy these countries, we r not tourists same as those foreigners all over the world, these people dont think that there are many south africans who are working overseas coz we are millions in sa so we canr all wait for the government to help us but we had to take an initiative and tried to help ourselves.

27 May 2008
 

Concerned Student

I agree with every comment that The Citizen has made.

I SEE every sort of crime committed by foreigners where I live everyday. It is sickening, they sell drugs to students, especially ladies who are still “Freshers” at varsity just to get them hooked. After that they know get *** for drugs. They are doing more bad than good.

There are a lot of people who died for S.A. back in the days to make it what it is today. FOREIGNERS should not run away from their problems and try and make an excuse that they looking for greener pastures. There is no such thing, if can not find them in your own country you will never find them.

FOREIGNERS go back home and fight against your political systems, it is not about what your coutry can do for you, it is about what you can do for your country.

27 May 2008
 

Kay

PEOPLE VIOLENCE WONT CHANGE THE RSA SITUATION. I AM A 22 YEAR OLD ZULU GIRL LIVING IN RSA, I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN PROUD OF MY COUNTRY UNTIL RECENTLY. I MEAN WHEN WILL SAns STOP BLAMING OTHERS FOR WHATEVER SITUATION THEY ARE IN?! I MEAN REALLY NOW, WE CANNOT LIVE IN ISOLATION, WE CANNOT JUST BE SOUTH AFRICANS LIVING IN SOUTH AFRICA, WE NEED OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS, PLEASE I PLEAD WITH YOU TO STOP KILLING. HOW CAN YOU KILL A MOTHER, FATHER, BROTHER… ANOTHER SOUL AND YET CALL YOURSELF A HUMAN BEING?! HOW CAN YOU?

WE SHOULD ALSO LEARN TO STOP BLAMING THE GOV. FOR EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS…

THE REASONS THAT SOME OF THESE PEOPLE GIVE TO TRY JUSTIFY THEIR ACTIONS ARE APPAULLING. I MEAN COMM’N PEOPLE: “THEY ARE TAKING OUR WOMEN, JOBS…” DO YOURSELVES A FAVOUR AND GO TO SCHOOL. THERE ARE ALOT OF OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE ESP. 4 BLACK PEOPLE HERE IN RSA. SO STOP KILLING OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS AND START BEING ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHO YOU ARE. I MEAN REALLY NOW…

I KNOW THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE COMMITTING THESE UNBEARABLE ACTIONS AND I AM ASHAMED OF IT, I AM ASHAMED OF SAYING I AM SOTH AFRICAN

TO ALL VICTIMS – ME SAYING SORRY WON’T CHANGE ANYTHING, THOUSANDS HAVE DIED, MILLIONS INJURED AND DISPLACED. I AM REALLY DISSAPOINTED IN MY COUNTRY RIGHT NOW AND WOULD LIKE TO SAY LET US ALL STAND TOGETHER AND PRAY, IT DOESN’T MATTTER WHETHER YOU ARE CHRISTIAN, ISLAMIC… LET US ALL STAND TOGETHER AGAINST THIS THING.

27 May 2008
 

mark cape town

I am Ashamed of being south african.
I am a whitey and I have never been racist in my life. I don’t even believe in nationalism. I believe in the human being ….being HUMANE and KIND to all creatures…human and animal alike!

I am so angry for what has happened …I can barely contain myself. …These foreigners are good people escaping a problem that MBEKI created and the incompetent ANC. We all know that. Its home affairs, Zimbabwe “quiet Diplomacy” amongst other things that has created the PERFECT STORM.
And of course the biggest monster that MUST COME OUT still is the “arms deal” which wasted 65 thousand million rand …….Think about it….think 10 million rand say put into schools and township community centers…think 100 million rand…now think 1000 million rand…now try 65 thousand million rand…thats the estimation of our money wasted by the ANC.
WHO WAS BRIBED? WHO GOT FAT COMMISSIONS?
This money should have gone into our communities…TO YOU IN THE TOWNSHIPS. It should not have bought private jets and submarines and lined peoples pockets like Zuma and Yengeni! Be honest, see the truth! Think about it……. Dont be bewitched by politicians charm. Where else did this money go ? What would just 10 million have done for a few schools ….so yes we have an insane society getting worse as the checks and balances are pulled away like the scorpions. Soon anyone will be able to get to the cash till and be rich beyond their wildest dreams (like Mugabe is now) ..on your tax money!!! think about it!!!!

Its all part of the same DECAY and ROT and DEVOLUTION that is occurring now. Its going backwards ..decaying…. the opposite of EVOLUTION (going forwards and creating balance , happiness and a sane society!

What has happened is a reflection of this deep ROT and DECAY…Its barbaric, vicious, cruel and the result of spiritually dead people who DESERVE NOTHING!

I am so sorry that good people lost their homes and lives and property to RUBBISH! and that the new “leaders” who have rotted the ANC don’t care or never bothered to take note of the writing on the wall. They were to busy fighting with each other and trying to get rid of the scorpions so that getting to the cash till will be easier.
Where is the soul, the caring, the love, the kindness that we should be working for in our precious South Africa. UBUNTU? ….That was created by spiritual/ intellectual/ philosophical giants! How could the ANC the masterpiece of giants like Nelson Mandela, Sisulu have rotted to this ? How can it be that of all the blood and sweat and hard hard work that the ANC has decayed to TWO USELESS MEN…MBEKI AND ZUMA.? Mbekie who is overseas all the time in his private jet and Zuma who is two faced and says publically he wants his day in court but is doing everything possible to avoid court and of course is instrumental in trying to get rid of the scorpions …the best anti crime intelligence in SA ?…

THAT NO BODY SAW THIS COMING! Everyone …including the person on the street saw it coming!
Including the many other hidden bombs popping to the surface due to this rot and decay ….like ESCOM and others that will turn South Africa into Zimbabwe.
This XENOPHOBIA is a symptom NOT a CAUSE!

THE ANC IS TO BLAME,- they are asleep and selfish and its very very sad.

The saddest thing of all is that brutal criminals are now plugging in new fridges, putting on new microwaves and the warmth of new heaters and are inheriting homes that are not theirs…STOLEN FROM GOOD PEOPLE THROUGH BLOOD…The owners of this property are now homeless, suffering and even dead!

Real bullets should have been used NOT PELLET GUNS with rubber bullets. This is for real. This is a situation where BAD HAS BEAT GOOD!

ITS ALSO ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE ANC’S IDEA OF “ZERO TOLERANCE TO CRIMINALS” ? Real bullets would be ZERO tolerance! Real bullets would have stopped this wave of rabies in its tracks!
This is another EXAMPLE OF PATHETIC AND SPINELESS “QUIET DIPLOMACY” and a government totally asleep …a government THAT HAS SUNK OUR NEIGHBOR ZIMBABWE INTO OBLIVION ALREADY!

Please forgive us Africa….and Africans
for we know not what we are doing!
I am so sorry for what has happened! All I can do in my own capacity is take some food and clothes to one of these help centers!

All my experience of Malawians, Zimbabweans, Congolese have been of good people, working hard and trying to make a living!

Of all the countries in the world we should be the one that understands racism and xenophobic madness and we should be so deeply vaccinated against the disease that we could never be infected by it ever again!

And here we are 20 years backwards

mark

27 May 2008
 

Eva Nelwa

Sad reading indeed. How soon people can forget. No wonder whites laugh at us. We are easily influenced by events. How can south africa forget so easily and start killing zimbabweans who at one time helped them. whether they were few or not. These Zimbabweans are running away from black madness only to land into worser black madness. I feel so ashamed to be black. no wonder they say “blacks have black hearts”. Is this the way it will be in 2010 world Cup. OMG what an embarrassment that gonna be. officials take note looking for for other countries to host. Was one of the Africans who felt so proud about SA hosting but now I am not sure.
“Disappointed blackie”

2 June 2008
 

fortune

well the SA economy is taking the shape of Zim. believe it or not. that’s how zim fell but listern up. what will happen with the lazy blood thirst people of SA.

3 June 2008
 

Paula

[quote comment="1535"]I guess one’s actions are regulated by what they believe and think is right. I can only attribute these barbaric and unholy acts to shallow minds and lazy hands of uneducated persons and frustrated lads who are yet to have an encounter with their maker( God) and are seeking contention in violence. I’m failing to say that such folks are sober, because clearly, they’re not.No one in this whole universe has or will ever find any solution or answer in violence.

Anyway, the bible recorded that during the last days, nations will rise against each other and a fathers against theirown kids. These showcase clearly what the prophet John was talking about in the book of revelations. John 10:10 says ” the devil comes to steal and to destroy”, but Jesus says “but I have come that you may have life, and not an ordinary life, but life in abundance”. The devil will never do any good to any man, whether against or with him. His mandate is to kill and to destroy, but I’m glad the bible says that he has been defeated. He’s a helpless freak who is trying so hard to win a battle that he has lost centuries ago.
Fellow citizens of the kingdom, it’s about time we realise that every major shaking on this planet is an implication and an indication of something which is yet to come. These kind of acts are an indication that we need to pray more and intercede for each other. Remember, the bible says that there is neither Jew nor Gentile, we’re all sons according to the inheritance we have in Christ. This clearly says to us that we need not recognise origin when we locate our own brothers and sisters, but let’s be of one lineage and realise the fact that the only weapon that can prevail against the enemy is the mind and the spirit of the opressed. We need to invest in our thinking processes and our spirirts if we are to see ourselves prevail against the odds of this world (and the devil himself).
The effectual fervent (continued;earnest) prayer of a righteous man makes tremendous power (Dunamis{Greek} -dynamic ability to cause changes) available(James 5:16).

Fighting one another will not win us any battle because none of us is the source or the cause of the battle. The devil is the cause and source, but he uses men and women who are submersive to his will to accomplish his acts. But I tell you, only if we could shift the stance against each other and use all our efforts in fighting the enemy in prayer, the battle will definately be won. Psalms 121 says “I will lift up mine us to the hills from whence com eth my help, my help cometh from the Lord, the Lord which made heaven and earth…”.
If we’re to receive help or any solution( or answer) that’s going to have a lasting impact against this peril, we ought to look up to our maker (God) and seek for divine intervention, then only can we sit back confidently and say we’re triumphant.

May the graec of our Lord Jesus Christ, the love of God and the communion of the holy spirit, rest and abide with each one of us, in Jesus’ name-AMEN.
God bless Africa![/quote]

3 June 2008
 

Paula

I just want to comment on the brother/sister who says JESUS is the answer.YES, He’s the only Healer for this situation.Thanks for your profound thoughts on the xenophobic attacks.Here in Maputo there was a prayer rally and it was a good moment to think where are WE amidst all the hatred and violence that is happening in our nations in Southern Africa. May we be touched by God’s immense Love and Mercy ibn Jesus name.Paula

31 December 2008
 

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